Victory over FLDS terrorists

The whole FLDS situation, with the government raid, the invasion of their temple, and the confiscation of their children, has DW waxing wroth.

I have been watching this whole deal with the FLDS and their practice of polygamy. In no way do I agree with any of their teachings. The outrage comes as this: since when does the State or Government or CPS have the right to invade what the FLDS believe to be sacred ground? I am referring to their Temple they had built and paid for on their own.

I understand there was a young girl, 15, that called. Texas law says you can be married at 16. So was she exactly 15 or was she 15½? Then through the corrupt CPS (Communist Party Service) they remove 400 kids? How did they do that? Through leading statements? Through lies?

Then the FDLS tried to ward off the state from entering their temple, but failed.

So what I am getting from all this is that we don't have religious freedom in this country unless you conform to the mainstream. Hey, why did the government not invade Rev. Wright and his congregation based on terror?

I am absolutely appalled that the government would desecrate their temple the way they did. So that means if any religious group does something that does not agree with the government, that the government can once again come in and show who is really boss.

Don't misunderstand here. I am very clear that the FLDS probably broke the law by six months and maybe more. That does not give anyone the right to invade their privacy. So all you Christians, Catholics, Jews -- if you have any place sacred, you are not safe. Like I said, I am in no way supporting the FLDS. I am trying to figure out what the Holy Hell has happened to our First, Geeeze, ALL our Amended rights.

Vulture, I am now with you 100% with your comments on the TSA. That is where it starts and now the Great (My Ass) State of Tex-ass has 400 misplaced kids ripped from their blood families based on the phone call of a 15 year old whom they can't find. Polygamy is wrong BUT doing what the CPS and Law enforcement did was very scary and has put this citizen on notice. I can't even think of a word to describe the anger I feel and outrage at this.

Well said, DW.

Look, I'm no fan of wacked-out cults. But that stated, there are some very valid and troubling points raised by DW.

• The FLDS broke the law
  
  Apparently it was common practice in this sect to "marry" off these girls as soon as they hit puberty. If true, it's an abomination and it's deplorable, and those guilty of having "married" these barely-pubescent girls should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
  
  They also broke the law with their practice of polygamy. Now, while I find said practice mystifying (Good God! Isn't ONE wife hard enough?), I find it laughable that der Staat wants to enforce THAT aspect of "marriage" while simultaneously pushing for legal status for Gay, Lesbian, and Trans-gender marriage. After all, where does the liberalization of marriage end once it ceases to be "one man/one woman/one lifetime" (which, coincidentally, is the model of marriage given to us in Genesis)?
  


• The over-the-top reaction of der Staat to the "threat" of the FLDS
  
  Whatever the case that can be made against the FLDS, the semi-militarized invasion of the group's ranch and temple was reminiscent of Waco. Way TOO reminiscent.
  
  After all, the Branch Davidians were a wacko religious cult practicing an unconventional religion. There was underage sex between cult leader David Koresh and many of the young women of the group. And they had a stash of weapons (Mein Gott! Weapons!) So the government invaded their compound, first unsuccessfully, then with chilling, deadly precision, with a show of force unprecedented in the history of this nation.
  
  The FLDS were smart not to resist the police invasion. They would have faired no better than the Davidians had they resisted.


• The invasion and desecration of the temple
  
  Regardless of how you feel about the FLDS in particular, or "sacred" buildings in general, this one needs to be addressed. Can you imagine the uproar if storm troopers of der Staat were to invade a "sacred" Muslim building? So.......why is there nary a peep about the invasion of the FLDS temple? Either we practice a policy of honoring the sanctity of ALL buildings considered sacred by the various religions, or we honor none of them. However you might feel about the FLDS, this violation of their rights is simply the prelude to the further violation of OUR rights. The fact that their religion is weird, that its practices may be abhorrent...that's not the point. I happen to think that Islam is weird and its practices (like burkas, fatwas, and jihad) abhorrent. That does NOT give me the right to invade their "sacred" buildings. By extension it does NOT give der Staat the right to invade them, either.


• The confiscation of the children
  
  I'm very deeply troubled by the whole "Child Services as judge/jury/executioner" trend. You mean to tell me that some piss ant government employee can just show up at a person's home and TAKE their children based solely on the judgment call of said government employee? And that's considered okay? If you need any further evidence that we're a nation of sheeple, this is about as definitive as it gets.
  

You won't hear any of these concerns expressed on the blathering heads shows on TV. You won't read any opinion pieces questioning the actions of der Staat's armored goons. You won't hear talk radio decrying the First Amendment violations. Why? Because, sadly, the vast majority of us believe that it's all right to violate the rights of those who are weird or non-mainstream when they're accused of criminal activities.

Oh, one last point, DW. The gestapo-like behavior by the government didn't start with TSA. It started with ATF (the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms). TSA is just the latest step in the journey from free republic to socialist dictatorship.